Fraudulent Freedom and the Needs of the Poor

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To claim Jesus called people to voluntarily help the poor and needy is true. But to go beyond that assertion and claim Jesus wouldn’t support – and we shouldn’t support – helping the poor through taxes and government structures is nonsense. It’s like saying Jesus cares about the safety of people but would only support voluntary, uncoerced compliance to traffic laws. Jesus wasn’t in the governing business. But neither was he in the business of dismantling government when it served ends he advocated: the care of the most impoverished and needy people in society.

Those who tout voluntary charity to the exclusion of government support for the less advantaged reflect a hierarchy of values that is foreign to Jesus and the witness of scripture. They place the choice of the strong whether or not to do good over the good to be accomplished for the weak.  What we find in this is the celebration of the unfettered freedom of the potential giver over the alleviation of suffering and want. This priority is not found in Christ or the apostles, or for that matter, the early church Fathers. Freedom was not something cherished as an end in itself to be celebrated regardless of the impact on the weak and vulnerable.

True freedom was understood to be the freedom to serve, freedom for others. “For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for self-indulgence, but through love become slaves to one another” (Galatians 5:13). Freedom used to advance self-interest and refuse responsibility for the needs of the suffering was not condoned but condemned in scripture. Within the Bible attention to the concerns of the least advantaged is never treated as a mere option that can be “freely” ignored.

It was not out of a concern for the freedom of the selfish and uncompassionate that Jesus called for voluntary generosity to the poor and needy.  What else could he do? As I already noted, he wasn’t in the governing business and the Roman Empire wasn’t interested in any guidance he might offer. Yes, he called people to follow him and do good without compulsion. Yet Jesus showed no interest in affirming the freedom of those who were able but unwilling to help alleviate the suffering of the needy. It might be wise to keep as a backdrop to the ministry of Jesus the vision of his mother Mary who spoke of the powerful being brought down from their thrones and the lowly being lifted up (Luke 1:46-54).

Concern for the freedom of the wealthy did not seem to capture the attention or interest of our Lord. What was very much in his focus was the sickness, hunger, and abandonment faced by the suffering people. Can we read Jesus’ story of the rich man and Lazarus with any degree of honesty and come away thinking, “Yes, the most important lesson is that the rich man should freely choose to help the poor Lazarus?” (Luke 16:19-31).  Is not, in fact, the focus of Jesus on the external condition of the poor man rather than the internal state of the rich man?

Our Lord makes no mention of how he would like the rich man to feel. Instead Jesus speaks of the over-abundance of the man which takes on a grotesqueness in view of the great suffering that occurs just outside his home. The pain and humiliation of the poor man is spotlighted. He was “full of sores” and “desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores” (vss. 20, 21). There is nothing in the text that even hints that Jesus would only want the rich man’s wealth to be used to help Lazarus if the rich man felt compassion.

While the apostle Paul tells us that “God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7), the good cheer of the giver, or the lack thereof, does not trump the needs of the needy. Not free choice but the necessity for the rich to relinquish their advantage for the sake of the needy is the real lesson that we find in the story of the rich man and Lazarus and much of the rest of what the Bible has to say about helping the poor. The Bible fixates on neither the subjective state of the privileged nor on the specific means of helping the needy.   It matters less whether this help is done through individual action, private charitable organizations or government programs than that help occurs.

Yes, our Lord called for his people to lead by example as servants and not “lord it over” others as do “the kings of the Gentiles” (Luke 22:24-27). Followers of Jesus are not to compel others to bend their knees to Jesus or use coercive authority to establish their position of greatness. All of government involves coercion to some extent. A case can be made – and has been made – for Christians to distance themselves from all of the government’s enforcement activity, from the courts to the battlefield. But unless one is calling for this sort of sweeping withdrawal, it is grossly hypocritical to target programs that help the most vulnerable by claiming Jesus “never advocated stealing from the rich to give to the poor.”

Certainly, it is true that Jesus calls his people to be compassionate. To be joyfully and freely generous is a virtue that needs to be fostered. The church should be deeply involved in caring for those who suffer and be a model to the world, a sign of the kingdom of God. But to make care for the poor and disadvantaged totally dependent on the voluntary help of individuals of good will is misguided.  Welfare and public assistance for the needy is not, as some critics have claimed, “being generous with someone else’s money.” Rather, as Ambrose (333 AD- 397 AD) taught, “Everything belongs to God…This is justice: that one restore to the needy, because it is God who gives.” This is not one bit more true in the private life of the individual than it is in public life.

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Craig M. Watts is the minister of Royal Palm Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in Coral Springs, Florida and Co-Moderator of Disciples Peace Fellowship. He authored the book Disciple of Peace: Alexander Campbell on Pacifism, Violence and the State (Doulos Christou Press: Indianapolis, 2005) and his essays have appeared in many journals such as Cross Currents, Encounter, the Otherside, DisciplesWorld and more. Craig blogs on the Disciples Peace Fellowship’s, “Shalom Vision.”

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  • Anonymous

    Putting Jesus first is not easy, but it is possible!

  • RH

    I definitely agree with the heart of this article. We should be willing to help the poor; even through our government. I agree the Christian community has moved to a place of being selfish with their money and resentful about their taxes being used to care for the poor. I simply do not believe the method used to care for the poor by the government is either as helpful to them as it could be nor sustainable. If the economy cannot support the government programs and collapses, the ones who will suffer the most are…correct…the poor. I believe we do need to change our attitudes about the government helping the poor, but also work toward more positive ways of doing that instead of fighting against the actual principle of sharing.

    • tarl_hutch

      Your comment and the blog post actually dovetail nicely. There is certainly a need for governmental assistance and private charities. I think what most people dislike about the government programs is the inefficiency and lack of job training. We need safety net programs, but we should make sure they are efficient and creating the desired result. I am left leaning politically, but a pragmatic when it comes to results and productivity. Our current programs need streamlining and focus, this is what we should argue for, not a dismamtling. It is not socialism to take care of those in need, but it is irresponsible to waste money amd not help people rise out of their situation.

      The last line of this article should hit us hard and cause us to really focus on taking care of the least of these with every tool available. Once we mive away from pat, partisan talking points and focus on practical solutions, the better we all will be. This is not a war on sharing, but on selfness and self righteousness. We are gifted by God and responisble to do the best with our gifts, helping those i. need as efficiently as possible and to the glory of God.

  • http://twitter.com/brucearmstrong1 Bruce Armstrong

    Interesting to note that there is not a single mention in this article about ensuring the efficient operation of assistance programs; I would consider this being a good steward of tax dollars.

    Nor is there any mention of requiring people receiving public assistance to work, or look for work, or perform some kind of work or labor for their assistance.

    “For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’ We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. ” – 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12, NIV

    • Chad

      This is the second time in a week I’ve seen someone use those verses in 2 Thes. to justify being uncharitable to the poor and hungry. I’m sorry, but you’re taking those verses out of context. Paul was talking about people that were a *part of the church at Thessalonica* (hence the words “some among you”) and not about feeding the poor. These were people *within the church* that were lazy and not doing their fair share, not random hungry people. Jesus never taught that we should only help those who meet certain criteria. We’re to give to “the least of these”, not just those who meet our standards of deserving aid.

      • http://twitter.com/brucearmstrong1 Bruce Armstrong

        How did I advocate being uncharitable to the poor? Should we just throw money and material aid at people with no attempt at accountability? Would you advocate giving government-paid-for booze to alcoholics in the name of “charity”?

        True, Paul was specifically addressing a situation within the church at Thessalonica, just as he was in Revelation 3. However, just as we can apply Paul’s warnings to those churches to the modern church, we can take Paul’s instruction from 2 Th 3 and apply it to modern society.

        Never once did Jesus nor anyone else in the Bible advocate blind, unconditional aid. Nor did they advocate stealing (via ultra-high taxation or by any other means) from the rich to give to the poor. Jesus is NOT Robin Hood.

        • Samuel

          Lowest taxes in sixty years and the lowest taxes in the developed world is what we find in the present day in the U.S. No “ultra-high taxes” in this country. And while Jesus was not Robin Hood, neither was he Grover Norquist. The early church Fathers applied
          2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 to the idle rich.

          • Drew

            Good point… the U.S. has high “stated” income and corporate tax rates, but once you count up all the deductions and loopholes that you could drive a semi-truck through, our taxes are actually low.

        • akiva

          just a little side note here Paul did not write revelations it was John that wrote Revelations and was warning the churches.

  • http://twitter.com/brucearmstrong1 Bruce Armstrong

    Interesting to note that there is not a single mention in this article about ensuring the efficient operation of assistance programs; I would consider this being a good steward of tax dollars.

    Nor is there any mention of requiring people receiving public assistance to work, or look for work, or perform some kind of work or labor for their assistance.

    “For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’ We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. ” – 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12, NIV

  • Frank

    Refusing to be excited about the government wasting more and more tax dollars on an inefficient system with no real accountability has nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity and wanting to care for the poor.

  • Drew

    I think we need to separate the motives for why people think the government should not be a primary vehicle for helping the poor.

    There are certainly people who advocate this because they are evil people, and want the money so they can spend it on themselves and could care less about the poor. This article is perfect for those kind of people. They are definitely out there.

    However, there are people who advocate a reduced government role because they think the government is extremely inefficient, that local programs have more of a personal touch and can provide more tailored services than the government raining money on people, that it is not the role of government but of the Church to aid the poor, and that people get government aid and thank government (not the Church, not God, not the taxpayers). For this crowd, I think your article fell short.

    Since I happen to agree with you Craig, I would just ask everyone in the latter category this question – The reason why these government programs were created in the first place is because Christians were failing miserably at providing a safety net and people were suffering and dying. If you advocate cutting government programs, and if you know that historically the gap has NOT been filled by Christians or any other group, than what is your solution?

    • http://ricbooth.wordpress.com Ric

      I find myself in the rather bizarre position of agreeing with you on this issue, Drew.

      • tarl_hutch

        Excellent points Drew. In the spirit of bizarre agreement, one idea from Mr.Green’s lengthy post posed a question in my mind that I thought may get some feedback piggy backing off your comment.

        As you say, historically we have a dismal record of giving to private charities in any real way, but what if we were to take a Que from Mr. Green and eliminate the government programs and funnel the collected money to private and faith based charities? Do you think they would work better with the money that the government or would they be overwhelmed. If we still collected tax money meant for safety net programs but privatized them, could that work better?

        Let me be clear, I am not advocating this, but wanted to try a bit if a thought experiment. I also figured people may think it over coming from me, instead of Mr. Green. Ultimately, we need to focus on the way of Jesus, which means we focus on our actions, as well as inspiring others. Regardless of who provides the programs we are to love and care for everyone our paths cross with.

        • Amos

          I guess my question would be, where on this planet has private charities alone reduced poverty below Third World levels? William’s statement, ”
          $1 given to the fiscally wasteful and inefficient government for redistribution to the poor in its War On Poverty is $1 less that the private sector has to give to the much more fiscally responsible and cost effective private sector dedicated to charity” has no point of contact with the real world. There is simply no evidence that a shift away from government programs and the accompanying tax reduction will shift that money into charities instead of a more expensive car or nights out on the town. Other developed nations are reducing poverty more effectively than the U.S. We need to look to them for models rather than to some fantasy notions about how private charities can do the job alone. It just doesn’t matter if they are “more effective” but only reach one fifth of the needy people than is being reached by the “ineffective” government..

          By the way, the supposedly “ineffective” war on poverty reduced poverty from 19% in 1964 to 11.1 % in in 1973. Only after conservatives began defunding poverty programs did poverty start increasing again. Had minimum wage alone kept up with inflation, poverty would be considerably lower than it is now.

          • tarl_hutch

            And the plot thickens…I think the argument could still hold true that private charities tend to lack the funds and resources to totally change a country at this point. Plus, it is difficult in other countries considering their respective governments and how open they are to change. So, I am not sure if that argument negates the impact of private charities, as they are still hindered by fundraising, etc.

            Your point regarding minimum wage is a good one, but with a shortage of jobs now, would that really make a difference? It seems many companies are loath to higher people at a liveable wage and during a recession it becomes worse. Thus, leading to unemployment and the need for a safety net. I have heard an argument fir allowing companies to hire below the minimum wage to create more jobs, but this too seems undesirable.

            Any further thoughts on that? I too wonder if private charities could manage money any better, but who knows?

        • Drew

          I would rather not go down the political and economic road that I would have to go down in order to explain my thoughts, but I appreciate you discussing the issue.

          • tarl_hutch

            Fair enough…it really is a issue that is far to complex for a comment board.

    • Mick Sheldon

      I disagree with your premise Drew . For one their are more people in poverty today then in years past . More people rely on the government today then ever before. Just because government can help , does not the policies have always been correct , and the unintended cosequences made things actually worse then before. There is a big difference between a safety net and a way of permanent support. We spend now almost 3500 dollars perfamily a month in this country , that is per month . You think if the church was in control of how we spent that money things would be better , I sure do . The world gets your credit , the church gets your blame . Could perhaps your perception is looking towards the world more then Christ , and at times those looking at Christ forget we still have to deal with the world .

      • Amos

        The question is not just whether we have more poor. After all, we have more people in the U.S. than ever before. The fact is that we don’t have a larger percent of the total population in poverty than before the “war on poverty.” There is more poverty than there was in the 90s because the economy has been destroyed by the forces of bank deregulation and the dynamics of greed. The claim that the Community Reinvestment Act had anything to do with this is totally without basis.

      • Anonymous

        Mick – I agree with you that the church would do a better job of spending this money than the federal government. The problem, at least from the perspective of those who want the federal government to engage in this type of program, is that the church doesn’t have access to the amount of money the federal government has. The church has no taxing authority.

        • Drew

          Not only does the Church not have taxing authority, but the revenue stream is extremely variable. Revenue is the least when the need is the greatest.

      • Drew

        Correlation does not equal causation; I hope you know better than that, Mick.

        We could talk for days about the source of poverty in America, but I think it is a false flag to mention the safety net as a root cause of poverty. I think most folks realize that the root causes of increased poverty include things like globalization and our middle class jobs being replaced with low wage jobs, which has been statistically proven, and has led to the greatest inequality in recent U.S. history.

        There is not a lot of “permanent” support in the U.S. safety net, so I’m not sure if that is a real cause of increased poverty, the excess of the safety net. If there is permanent support, such as food stamps or heating assistance or Medicaid, it is because the person is always eligible due to low income or disability. Even if they are eligible, a lot of programs have time limits anyways, such as unemployment and welfare. SS and Medicare is permanent because we pay taxes for it and it would be funded properly if the government stopped stealing money from it.

        I don’t have time to write more, but essentially, I think it is without merit that you challenge my premise, that the safety net has been a bigger hurt than help. I always chuckle when people want to return to the 1910… I wish I had a time machine : )

        • Mick

          Drew I stated we needed safety nets , sorry if did not make that clearer. The unintended consequences of poverty programs should be looked at more , one policy fits all is the basic problem we have with government programs . As Sam pointed in local control being more effective is how Grants have been used . Supporting something without the one policy fitting all mentality that big government often uses . Again it was not the safety net , I measure the success of a government program not on how many need it , but how many people after getting on it will no longer need it . I do not think that is emphasized enough . With Christ we see the difference in peoples lives , they are better after meeting our Lord then before . Perhaps having a secular government we are restrained at doing that , but the examples of people being helped not to need government in their lives, their lives becoming better because of a government program in my opinion would cause more Christians to at least agree. on supporting more of the same issues. I don’t chuckle when people see the history of the collective governments as something we should mirror despite all the deaths and misery that resulted by them . To think that governments are exempt of the evil that lurks in this world is to deny the basic Gospel . The Government is of this world , it can provide help and good things , but my belief is too keep its ability to control out lives more out of lives then you it appears.

          • Drew

            Governments might have a certain corrupting power, as does any institution, but the main problem behind bad government is bad people. In any case, I agree with most of what you said, Mick.

    • Anonymous

      Hi Drew, since no one else has attempted to answer your question I’ll take a stab. Ideally, in my perfect world, it would be more local governments who are the primary government actors when it comes to poverty reduction. They’d work with local private sector organizations to reduce poverty in their local communities. There’s better accountability about where the money is going and more “hands on” work being done.

      I think a lot of the opposition to federal poverty programs is that people have no idea where their money is going and to whom it is going.

      • Drew

        I think it’s a good idea and I would like to see that happen on some scale but there are still a few issues.

        First, doesn’t this happen to some extent already with grants? Granted, you are advocating it on a larger scope than what currently happens.

        Second, for our more partisan friends, having the Federal Government tax folks and collect the money, even if it give it to states in the form of block grants, might not be acceptable.

        Third, will this not require a tremendous amount of oversight and regulation? You will have tens of thousands of localities with big amounts of cash to hand out to various groups. I would assume not all of the groups would be Christian or religious at all that would vie for the money. I would assume that there would be a huge push for for-profit organizations to be involved rather than just non-profits. I’m sure some states and groups would want to impose very harsh standards so if that wasn’t regulated at a federal level, you would have very unequal standards across states.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DeepNarcosis William J. Green

    The egregious errors in this theology/philosophy are indicative of the theology and philosophy many if not most Theologically trained but NOT Economically trained personnel make. And it was precisely the MBA in Economic Development that Dr. Campolo founded at Eastern College and which I enjoyed the privilege of being within the first graduating class, that equips people to address and correct these errors.

    First, $1 given to the fiscally wasteful and inefficient government for redistribution to the poor in its War On Poverty is $1 less that the private sector has to give to the much more fiscally responsible and cost effective private sector dedicated to charity — whether churches, synagogues, temples, mosques or private charities and philanthropies. This is almost NEVER addressed.

    A dollar given to one entity is a dollar unavailable for any other purpose and can NOT be given to any other entity.

    Ignoring the IMMORAL borrowing on the backs of our children and grandchildren out for many generations of $0.40 for every $1.00 the federal government collects and spends we know that government forcibly confiscates $1,524,000,000,000 dollars annually from ALL FEDERAL INCOME TAX-PAYING ENTITIES (private and corporate). We’ll ignore the $842,000,000,000 the Feds also collect for Social Security, Medicare and the Prescription Drug Program for the time being.

    What percent of this $1.524 Trillion is spent on the failed War on Poverty? Since its inception during the LBJ administration we’ve spent ~ $19,000,000,000,000 and we have MORE POOR people collecting welfare, food stamps, CHIPs, medicaid, extended unemployment checks, disability, and subsidized housing than ever before. This unassailable fact can NOT be overlooked and can NOT be excluded from the calculus required to balance our federal budgets, reduce deficits and ameliorate the national debt. This almost never gets mentioned. What would Jesus say about this fact?

    The U.S. spends about $283,000,000,000 on Medicaid (health care for the poor) and CHIPs (Children’s Health Insurance Program) combined. We spend another $466 billion on individuals and families facing hardship. These programs include: the refundable portion of the earned-income and child tax credits, which assist low- and moderate-income working families through the tax code; programs that provide cash payments to eligible individuals or households, including Supplemental Security Income for the elderly or disabled poor and unemployment insurance; various forms of in-kind assistance for low-income families and individuals, including food stamps, school meals, low-income housing assistance, child-care assistance, and assistance in meeting home energy bills; and various other programs such as those that aid abused and neglected children.

    In short, we spend annually about $749,000,000,000 on the War on Poverty (MORE than our entire Military Budget which IS found within our Constitution). And what do we have to show for it? MORE POOR THAN EVER BEFORE. Using the ratio of $0.40:$1.00 — $0.40 borrowed for every dollar collected and spent — this means we spend from the actual federal income taxes we collect $449,400,000,000 on the War On Poverty and borrow another $299,600,000,000 from China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, bankrupt Europe, the Federal Reserve, and elsewhere to aid our poor which are much less poor than most of the nations’ poor we borrow from.

    And What Would Jesus Say about this?

    When theologically trained people denigrate the notion that Charity should remain under the purview of the private sector and not the State, they NEVER mention the fact that if this were to occur at least $449,400,000,000 must therefore remain in the hands of the private sector, and if China, et al borrowings are initially included and eventually reduced, another $299,600,000,000 in the early years. What would great American Christians, Hindus, Muslims, and Leftist charitable types do with this additional $749,000,000,000? Surely they would NOT give it all to private charities. Probably not even half, nor one-third. But what if the tax code was structured such that on average, about 25% was donated to churches, synagogues, temples, mosques and private charities and philanthropies in exchange for generous tax incentives? What if an additional $187,250,000,000 annually were donated exclusively to programs that engage in charity and “helping the poor?” And the other $75% or $561,750,000,000 were used to stimulate the economy that Obama’s $800,000,000,000 attempted but failed miserably to?

    Asked another way: Who should Christians, HIndus, Muslims, and Charitable Leftists trust more to use their hard-earned monies to fund cost-effective and successful charitable endeavors — churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, World Vision, Save the Children, etc., or the profligate and failed Obama regime and his successors?

    The answer is simple, clear, Constitutional and I would argue strenuously Biblical.

    The father of our Constitution:

    “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents…” — James Madison

    An elder statesman, founder, inventor and entrepreneur:

    “I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” — Benjamin Franklin

    “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” Under our Caesar’s Constitution s/he is neither mandated nor enumerated empowered to run our nation’s charitable clearinghouse, let alone 1/6th of our economy overseeing healthcare. That falls under the purview of God’s people under the law of love, not confiscatory taxation and forced wealth redistribution.

    By virtually every objective metric, philosophy and theology: the failure of the State’s War on Poverty — and thus de facto War on Poor People, the wasted $19,000,000,000,000 to curb poverty, the huge budget deficits and national debt, the waste and fraud within poverty programs that is well documented, the political/economic philosophy of our founders and framers, and Jesus’ charge NOT to Caesar, either Herod, Pontus Pilate, nor even primarily the Chief Priests, Elders, Pharisees, and Sadducees, but to His apostles and disciples, the way of obedience is clear. YOU give them something to eat!

    http://usdebtclock.org/

    • Amos

      The war on poverty was a failure? In 1964 the poverty rate was 19%. By 1973 it had dropped to 11.1%. As the conservative war on the poor started, the poverty rate increased. Under-cutting programs that were working and not allowing minimum wage to rise with inflation had more to do with any failures that the shortcomings programs themselves. The deficit is not largely due to social programs but to military related spending and irresponsible tax cuts.

      • Mick Sheldon

        Your wrong , we could cut the military budget , raise taxes to 90 percent on the upper one percent an we still have deficits . Then of course we hope the rich keep on making the same amount of money every year and provide the same amount of jobs . The budget that is growing is our SS, Medicare , and obligations of paying 40 cents on every dollar to interest. The conservative war on the poor ? I would say the special interests and power hungry politicians won that war , we have more poor today then we ever have , and government has never been bigger. Since when was 1 out of 7 perople receiving food stamps considered a victory for the poor ? Would you not support policies that made it so that people did not need government to live off. Have you seen what is happening around the world to countries who have depended on governments for their welfare ? Also have you noticed the bigger the government involvement , the smaller the Faith in Christ as the most important aspect of those citizens . You forsake freedom for reliance on government , Christ wants reliance on him , and our lives to be fulfilled . Your looking at the short term . Making the government your source of solving the problem is no different then those countries that make communism or secular sources as the answer. Because you seem to think you “feel” better about it , it will work this time . History shows your wrong ,

        • Amos


          Have you seen what is happening around the world to countries who have depended on governments for their welfare ? Also have you noticed the bigger the government involvement , the smaller the Faith in Christ” So you’re claiming causation? Then I suppose you want to whole world to look like Somali for the sake of faith? I’ll pass. As was pointed out in a post above, there may be more poor today in the U.S. but there are more people; the percent of the poor in relation to the total population is less now than pre-War on Poverty days. It is a ridiculous and baseless suggestion that poverty programs in any way have contributed to increasing poverty. In case you haven’t noticed, the biggest recession in 60 years occurred, caused by deregulation and sub-prime loans that banks packaged and sold to dodge the risk. And, no, the government didn’t require lenders lend to credit unworthy people. The antics of the rich have against lead to more suffering for the poor. Northern European countries have managed to provide healthcare to all for less than is being spent in the U.S. What they don’t have is the absurdly huge military that shifts resources in an unhelpful direction. No economic changes will accomplish what Christ does and can never replace him. But it is ludicrous to suggest that a government that is more helpful to more people is somehow at odds with Christ. Your reading of history is wrong.

          • Mick

            Amos I want our country to look more like the United States , your suggestion I wanted it to look like Somalia is a straw man tactic or perhaps just meant to be insulting .
            I have nothing against helping the poor, what I see is good intentions often being undone by unintended consequences. Would not an effective program for the poor be one that actually caused less people to need it over time ?
            But I see you comments are emerged in hatred for the rich and scapegoats . The rich , regardless if they are kind hearted or evil pay the greater tax burden .
            Wealthy Americans earn
            about 50 percent of all income but pay nearly 70 percent of the federal tax
            burden, according to the latest analysis Tuesday by the Congressional Budget
            OfficeCBO looked at 2007 through 2009 and found the bottom 20
            percent of American earners paid just three-tenths of a percent of the total tax
            burden, while the richest 20 percent paid 67.9 percent of taxes.
            Regardless the health Care Issue is a perfect example . We already pay more then other countries in our broken system . Actually single payer in my opinion might have been better then we have where we have morphed into a employer system . I would think a single payer would offer people more freedom and allow for people to work at jobs they are gifted in without worrying if health care was provided.
            But that would be for a good discussion , sorry Amos but you appear to pick winners and losers based on ideology . Yes the collective mentality has provided more burdens , more mass murderers and murders in the past century then any other time in the history of the world . Stalin and the rest . Relying on the “good” of government , a government that is secular thankfully so we enjoy the freedom Christ gave us, is worrisome to me . You can not escape history or our natures , to think that a secular government will somehow be void of the evil of this world is a utopia based in nothing our Lord teaches .

    • Mick Sheldon

      Here here !

    • Jason

      William and Mick are so off the mark. I won’t address the goofy approach to scripture right now but their ill conceived notions of “the failure of the State’s War on Poverty.” Someone who actually knows what he is talking about isGeorgetown University Law Professor Peter Edelman who was a legislative assistant to Senator Robert Kennedy and as an Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services in the Clinton administration

      Edelman suggests that the real reasons for persistent poverty include the proliferation of low-wage jobs; a “gaping hole” that’s been ripped in the safety net in terms of vanishing cash assistance for low-income mothers and children; and “persistent issues of race and gender” that lead to higher poverty rates for minorities and families headed by single mothers. He points to research by the Economic Policy Institute showing that half the jobs in the nation pay less than $34,000 a year; and one-quarter pay less than $23,000 annually. Also, wages for jobs in the bottom half have increased just 7 percent since 1972.
      Edelman takes on the popular myth first coined by Ronald Reagan, “We fought a war on poverty and poverty won.”Not so, Edelman argues. He notes work by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities demonstrating that without Social Security, food stamps, the earned-income tax credit, and the rest of the safety net, “poverty would be nearly double what it is now.” Indeed, instead of 46 million people living in poverty—living on less than $22,314 for a family of four—there would be about 86 million people living in poverty.“To say that ‘poverty won’ is like saying the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts failed because there is still pollution,” asserts Edelman.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DeepNarcosis William J. Green

    The egregious errors in this theology/philosophy are indicative of the theology and philosophy many if not most Theologically trained but NOT Economically trained personnel make. And it was precisely the MBA in Economic Development that Dr. Campolo founded at Eastern College and which I enjoyed the privilege of being within the first graduating class, that equips people to address and correct these errors.

    First, $1 given to the fiscally wasteful and inefficient government for redistribution to the poor in its War On Poverty is $1 less that the private sector has to give to the much more fiscally responsible and cost effective private sector dedicated to charity — whether churches, synagogues, temples, mosques or private charities and philanthropies. This is almost NEVER addressed.

    A dollar given to one entity is a dollar unavailable for any other purpose and can NOT be given to any other entity.

    Ignoring the IMMORAL borrowing on the backs of our children and grandchildren out for many generations of $0.40 for every $1.00 the federal government collects and spends we know that government forcibly confiscates $1,524,000,000,000 dollars annually from ALL FEDERAL INCOME TAX-PAYING ENTITIES (private and corporate). We’ll ignore the $842,000,000,000 the Feds also collect for Social Security, Medicare and the Prescription Drug Program for the time being.

    What percent of this $1.524 Trillion is spent on the failed War on Poverty? Since its inception during the LBJ administration we’ve spent ~ $19,000,000,000,000 and we have MORE POOR people collecting welfare, food stamps, CHIPs, medicaid, extended unemployment checks, disability, and subsidized housing than ever before. This unassailable fact can NOT be overlooked and can NOT be excluded from the calculus required to balance our federal budgets, reduce deficits and ameliorate the national debt. This almost never gets mentioned. What would Jesus say about this fact?

    The U.S. spends about $283,000,000,000 on Medicaid (health care for the poor) and CHIPs (Children’s Health Insurance Program) combined. We spend another $466 billion on individuals and families facing hardship. These programs include: the refundable portion of the earned-income and child tax credits, which assist low- and moderate-income working families through the tax code; programs that provide cash payments to eligible individuals or households, including Supplemental Security Income for the elderly or disabled poor and unemployment insurance; various forms of in-kind assistance for low-income families and individuals, including food stamps, school meals, low-income housing assistance, child-care assistance, and assistance in meeting home energy bills; and various other programs such as those that aid abused and neglected children.

    In short, we spend annually about $749,000,000,000 on the War on Poverty (MORE than our entire Military Budget which IS found within our Constitution). And what do we have to show for it? MORE POOR THAN EVER BEFORE. Using the ratio of $0.40:$1.00 — $0.40 borrowed for every dollar collected and spent — this means we spend from the actual federal income taxes we collect $449,400,000,000 on the War On Poverty and borrow another $299,600,000,000 from China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, bankrupt Europe, the Federal Reserve, and elsewhere to aid our poor which are much less poor than most of the nations’ poor we borrow from.

    And What Would Jesus Say about this?

    When theologically trained people denigrate the notion that Charity should remain under the purview of the private sector and not the State, they NEVER mention the fact that if this were to occur at least $449,400,000,000 must therefore remain in the hands of the private sector, and if China, et al borrowings are initially included and eventually reduced, another $299,600,000,000 in the early years. What would great American Christians, Hindus, Muslims, and Leftist charitable types do with this additional $749,000,000,000? Surely they would NOT give it all to private charities. Probably not even half, nor one-third. But what if the tax code was structured such that on average, about 25% was donated to churches, synagogues, temples, mosques and private charities and philanthropies in exchange for generous tax incentives? What if an additional $187,250,000,000 annually were donated exclusively to programs that engage in charity and “helping the poor?” And the other $75% or $561,750,000,000 were used to stimulate the economy that Obama’s $800,000,000,000 attempted but failed miserably to?

    Asked another way: Who should Christians, HIndus, Muslims, and Charitable Leftists trust more to use their hard-earned monies to fund cost-effective and successful charitable endeavors — churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, World Vision, Save the Children, etc., or the profligate and failed Obama regime and his successors?

    The answer is simple, clear, Constitutional and I would argue strenuously Biblical.

    The father of our Constitution:

    “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents…” — James Madison

    An elder statesman, founder, inventor and entrepreneur:

    “I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” — Benjamin Franklin

    “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” Under our Caesar’s Constitution s/he is neither mandated nor enumerated empowered to run our nation’s charitable clearinghouse, let alone 1/6th of our economy overseeing healthcare. That falls under the purview of God’s people under the law of love, not confiscatory taxation and forced wealth redistribution.

    By virtually every objective metric, philosophy and theology: the failure of the State’s War on Poverty — and thus de facto War on Poor People, the wasted $19,000,000,000,000 to curb poverty, the huge budget deficits and national debt, the waste and fraud within poverty programs that is well documented, the political/economic philosophy of our founders and framers, and Jesus’ charge NOT to Caesar, either Herod, Pontus Pilate, nor even primarily the Chief Priests, Elders, Pharisees, and Sadducees, but to His apostles and disciples, the way of obedience is clear. YOU give them something to eat!

    http://usdebtclock.org/

  • Anonymous

    I agree with the initial premise of the blog post – that it’s nonsense to say that Jesus would oppose governments getting involved in helping the needy. There’s nothing unbiblical about governments establishing programs to assist those in need.

    But the author then loses me in three areas. The first is the one Drew identified in his response – that much of the debate in this country revolves around effectiveness of federal government programs, not the propriety of the method. And when I say effectiveness, I don’t just mean effectiveness in moving money from person A to person B without a lot of it wasted or spent on other things unrelated to helping the truly needy, but actually changing the underlying situation so that person B doesn’t have to walk around with his hand out forever.

    This leads to be second concern – the author’s assertion that God doesn’t appear to care much about the heart of person A or the relationship between person A and person B. The Bible and Jesus’ teaching are replete with examples showing that God does care about how we react and treat the needy, not just on a societal level, but on a personal level. You can’t tell me that God doesn’t care about my attitude towards the poor and needy, but only that of the society in which I live. My heart, and all our hearts, for the needy is very important. This relates to my first point, because federal government programs completely separate person A from person B. There is no act of love involved. There is no getting close to the needy and actually empathizing with them. Again, this doesn’t make federal government programs unbiblical, but it sterilizes our relationship by imposing a distant mediator.

    My third concern is the author’s point about freedom. Yes, the people in Biblical times had few notions of freedom or individual rights and liberties. They lived in an incredibly oppressive, patriarchal society in which social norms and mores were strictly enforced. It sounds like the author is saying that the progress we’ve made away from that type of society shouldn’t be valued, or at least valued less than making sure everyone has a certain level of material wealth.

    The problem with this view is that people are all too perfectly happy to trade away their negative freedoms (the ones Jesus doesn’t talk about) in exchange for positive freedoms (material comforts). At times, it’s hard to blame people for this tendency. After all, what good is the freedom of speech, right to private property, the fruit of your labor or pursuit of happiness if you’re starving, homeless and sick? But even people who live in relative comfort and wealth fall into this trap. How often do we hear Americans praising Fidel Casto’s government because there is some level of basic health care provided to all Cubans? It’s as if this one feature of his regime is to be put on a scale opposite his oppression and murder and weighed.

    Or take a look at this op-ed from the Guardian. The author is lamenting the loss of the “freedoms” she had under the East German government before the wall fell. Today, she lives in one of the richest countries in the world with many material comforts and is trying to weigh the pros and cons of a regime and social system that shot people that dared to criticize the government.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/08/1989-berlin-wall

    These are extreme cases, but my points is that when you start saying that individual liberty and rights aren’t as important as material goods you start to empower a government to provide an ever-expanding list of material comforts to its citizens, the citizens become more and more dependent on that government. The material comfort starts to erode away any appreciation for how fragile the negative freedoms we enjoy today are.

  • Amos

    This article has a narrow focus, answering a conservative Christian objection to government aid to the poor. The author contends -successfully, it seems to me- that our Lord’s desire for the needs of the poor to be met has priority over the “freedom” of the able but unwilling who might be compelled by the government to relinquish funds to aid the less advantaged. It is not that the Lord doesn’t care whether people feel compassion but his concern for the poor as seen in scripture doesn’t appear inseparably linked to the generous feelings of givers. Strangely, these same conservative Christians seem totally uninterested in opposing the compulsion required to get funds for the military from those who oppose all war or for the countless billions of dollars that go to corporate welfare from those who are opposed. Questions about the effectiveness of government programs in comparison to private charities or whether something should be asked in return for assistance given or what the Constitution has to say are good questions but this article would have to be too long for the author to address them in a single piece.

  • Dennis

    Who’s definition of poverty are we using? Anyone who has spent any amount of time in the 3rd world would scoff at this diatribe. Our poor run around in cars, use iPhone and do absolutely nothing and are granted unearned dollars from one of 65 different programs to sit around and watch satellite tv. The problem is accountability. Are we going to make someone accountable for the money they are given and how they spend it? Are we going to make someone accountable to make sure it is given to people who deserve it and administered in a way that hard working people dollars are not wasted and there aren’t a bunch of people getting rich from the administration of these precious dollars. There will be no accountability so there is no solution. Putting a church in charge of charity is foolish. Just look at the bazillions of dollars they have spent on buildings and “relevant” speakers these past 20 years… it’s a key sign they do not know God’s real priorities.

    • Samuel

      Clearly, the discussion here pertains to relative poverty. Most of the poor in the U.S. are working poor, not idle people sitting around milking the system as heartless slanderers would have us believe. It is not the poor who are milking the system but corporations. For instance with Medicare/Medicaid 90% of the fraud is done by providers. So any suggestion that a lack of accountability on the part of the poor is the central issue is way off the mark. But, yes, programs need to be monitored to guard against abuse. A good, basic and accessible place to start getting some information about poverty in America is to read The Rich and the Rest of Us: a Poverty Manifesto by Tavis Smiley and Cornel West.

    • Chad

      Isn’t it funny when people complain about the poor in this country being “too rich”… as if that’s a bad thing.

  • http://twitter.com/davinci1281 Harlan

    SInce the Great Society programs were initiated by LBJ, we have spent $17 Trillion on Federal and state programs to end poverty. To suggest that any government can effectively reduce, or alleviate poverty is naive at best, as rules for gaining a welfare check led to fatherless households and the break up of the nuclear family. This is the true cause of poverty in the US. It is a social ill that wasn’t created by government programs, but clearly exacerbated by them. The Aid to Families with Dependent Children Act, “provided financial assistance to children of single parents or whose families had low or no income.” So the unintended consequences of all this is a proliferation of single parent homes, the heads of which were incentivized to remain single, lest they lose their income. In addition, payment per child only increased the size of these single parent families, increasing the size of the problem, both on a micro and macro level. The government stepped in to take the place of “dads” that were neither excoriated, nor held accountable for the children they fathered.

    Finally, fatherlessness and the decline of the family IS an issue the church should and could weigh in on, including a call for welfare rules that incentivize families that stay together, getting back to work, and going to church.

    • Amos

      Here’s someone else who knows nothing about the history of poverty levels in the U.S.
      In 1964 the poverty rate was 19%. By 1973 it had dropped to 11.1%. Under-cutting programs that were working and not allowing minimum wage to rise with inflation had more to do with any failures that the shortcomings programs themselves. There is zero evidence that ”
      gaining a welfare check led to fatherless households and the break up of the nuclear family. This is the true cause of poverty in the US. ” This is a shameful and baseless claim. Most of the poor are working poor. Much of the social problems in the U.S. can be traced to gross inequality, as comparative international studies like those reviewed in The Spirit Level have shown.

      • Drew

        Don’t worry, Harlan is just reading from his RNC script they emailed to him last week. He doesn’t even understand what he is saying, and even if he did, he would have to lie to himself in order to believe it. Other than that 17 trillion figure, he mentioned not a single fact, statistic, study, proof… just a bunch of jibberish.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DeepNarcosis William J. Green

    Utopian Statism — Modern Day Liberalism, Leftism, Progressivism, Socialism, and Marxism that comprise the Democratic Party — is at its core an insidious form of IDOLATRY.

    Utopian Statists put a strange god (GOVERNMENT) before Him, lazily looking to government for mortal salvation from hard work and the real possibility of failure, hunger, homelessness, poverty, misfortune, disease, illness and destitution, and having to actually give to charity not only a check but oneself, preferring that government just deduct unseen a little extra from their paychecks for profligate and wasteful Welfare, Food Stamps, and other wealth transfers, which have only increased exponentially under our current non-American idol.

    BIG Leftist government is to 21st-century idolatry what the golden calf was to 13th-century BCE Israel.

    Utopian Statism seeks to attribute to government a power and sovereignty over life neither given by God nor enumerated by the Constitution, and it arises from outright atheism or a hatred of God coupled with a misplaced idolatrous “faith” (yes, it requires a ludicrous and idolatrous but great faith).

    As God both told us the poor will always be with us and, “YOU give them something to eat,” Utopian Statism blasphemes God by its belief that by making WAR against POVERTY (and thus the poor themselves) it can be defeated and eliminated. However, the Utopian Statist warriors in this war need not sully themselves in battle but only lavishly bribe its mercenary government via slightly higher taxes AND profligate Trillion-dollar borrowing from China, and the golden calf government will engage in the mission to ATTEMPT to rid the nation of the poor on their behalf, all the while creating more and more poor more inextricably dependent upon the government golden calf for succor and nurture from womb to tomb.

    And of course, Utopian Statists will accept utter defeat so long as the golden calf also advances its sodomic and filicide socially bankrupt immoral agenda mortgaged into the futures of their own children and grandchildren — at least those who survive the abortionists’ knives complicit with their mothers’ filicide dreams.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4534009907944&set=a.1247528587965.2038630.1221949455&type=1&theater

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