Good for Goodness Sake. . .Not Conversions

We should do good for goodness sake, not to achieve some other goal.  A good act is good in and of itself.  There are some people who believe that the only reason we should do good to others like providing the poor and oppressed with food and medicine, etc., is in order that we might win them to Jesus.

In other words, the good is simply a hook that we use to catch them and drag them in.  I believe that when good is done with such motives, the good loses its spiritual dimension. Good is not good because of a pressured conversion or awkward Gospel message. Good is good for its own sake.

Jesus said, in the Sermon on the Mount, “When you do good (i.e., alms), make sure that you do it in secret.  Make sure that your left hand doesn’t know what your right hand is doing.”  When you read that in the Sermon on the Mount, you have to ask yourself, “How can I reconcile those red letters in the Bible with doing good with an ulterior motive such as getting people to be willing to listen to my rip on the Gospel which should be done in secret?”

I told a youth group once that when they delivered their Christmas baskets, they should knock on the door, wait for the people to answer, present them with the food, and then sing some Christmas carols.  I asked these young people, “Do you really feel that the recipient is going to fall over, converted to Christ because of your generosity?  In all likelihood, they will feel embarrassed that they are in an impoverished state and have to depend on the gifts you are giving.”  When these young people asked me what should be done, my response was simple.  Sneak the presents and food onto the back porch and go away, call the people on the telephone and say, “There’s stuff on your back steps.  Go and get that stuff.  It’s for you.  This is God!”  Then hang up.

The Bible says that the God who sees what you do in secret will reward you openly.  It couldn’t be clearer from the Sermon on the Mount that the good that we do should never be for manipulating people into believing our doctrines.


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  • Maria

    Those who are actually yoked with Christ will do these things instinctively. Sadly there are still people (the vast majority) in churches across America that don’t know God intimately enough to be vehicles of restoration and peace. They are the same ones that are uncomfortable with the poor “needing too much” from them and disturbing there comfortable lifestyle. Great thoughts Tony!

    • Anonymous

      i dont believe people have to be yoked to christ or god to be able to do these things instinctivly..i am just glad for those who have true human compassion to do positive things for anyone..no strings attatched.

    • M Wooding

      The word actually was an interesting choice. Meaning in reality. I am fascinated when a person of faith questions the genuine quality and intimate relationship with God of another.

      We (frail humanity) can only guess at God’s love affair for another…. and often (as history repeatedly has shown us) we guess badly. In other words our guess or judgement may not look anything like how God views their relationship. How “intimately enough” they are.

      A little bit like marriage….no one outside a marriage actually understands the nature of that love relationship. It is impossible to understand the quality and depth of that intimacy because you are not fully part of it. Every relationship with God is unique, intimate, and a work in process. A work thankfully others are excluded from. God knows our personal thoughts…all our hurts, doubts, questions, mistakes, dreams and private disappointments….and with great kindness and tenderness shields them from others. That’s having an intimate relationship….you can’t have anything but an intimate relationship with God. He is always the first to be intimate.

      As much as you speculate on others ….sadly others are also speculating about your relationship with God and how real that looks or how outwardly productive or compassionate. We can disagree with each other but actually judging each others relationship with God is quite literally impossible. Just a thought.

  • Maria

    Those who are actually yoked with Christ will do these things instinctively. Sadly there are still people (the vast majority) in churches across America that don’t know God intimately enough to be vehicles of restoration and peace. They are the same ones that are uncomfortable with the poor “needing too much” from them and disturbing their comfortable lifestyle. Great thoughts Tony!

    • Anonymous

      Marie-are you saying you know god intimately?

  • http://twitter.com/AgapeAmbassador Caleb Motupalli

    People need to be given what they want before they can trust you to receive what they really need!

  • Cardinalfanliz

    I couldn’t agree more. I think John Wesley had the right idea when he said we should “Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can.”
    Nothing in there about preaching…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

    I believe everything we do whether in word or deed should glorify God. And, if doing something good for someone leads to a conversation about the love and grace of God through Jesus Christ, then consider it pure joy. Sometimes it takes a a deed in order for someone to ask about WHY we do what we do. We must always be ready to give an account for why we believe and do the things we do. If I didn’t have Christ living within me, I likely wouldn’t care about people. Now, I have a reason why I love and serve them.

    • Jonny

      What a sad, morally bankrupt individual you are. “If I didn’t have Christ living within me, I likely wouldn’t care about people.” You are pathetic, and represent everything people despise about the faithful. I’m wondering if you even realize your particular theology has robbed you of ordinary decency. It’s like you are admitting that the only reason yo behave or care for your fellow man is because you are looking for an eternal handout from the Lord (or more likely, are just appeasing Him to exempt yourself from a terrible fate). In either case, you fail as a morally decent human being, and have clearly missed the point of this article. 1 Peter 3:15 has nothing to do with kindness, and everything to do with being prepared to give reason for the faith. Sadly, your reason falls woefully short.

      • Sam

        Hate to see anyone trashed like that, Jonny. We should be good unto all men, especially the household of faith. This Christian walk is no easy thing to figure out. That’s why its a lifelong journey that often takes two steps forward and one step back.
        You think you get something figured out and then you realize how short of God’s glory your thoughts and actions really are.

        I think this blog is supposed to be about helping the entire Body of Christ move “from glory to glory into the image of Christ”, and not just complaining about what we’re doing wrong. Let our speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

        Jonny – Sadly, it’s true. I was truly a demoralized, unthankful, hopeless, and pathetic human being before Christ entered into my life 20 years ago. He has since made me into a purposeful child of God who changed me into someone that now truly loves people. My mission is to shine the light of Christ to the world and share and show the love of Christ with the world through both word and deed. This is why my family and I serve amongst the poorest of poor amongst the Roma community of Albania… to let the light of Jesus Christ shine amidst so much darkness and despair. Peace and grace to you.

    • Anonymous

      Greg..there are those who don’t belive in god or any god..who choose to do good for others without getting any kind of something back. when i do things for people-its out of human compassion that leads to bringing someone joy and happiness in their lives.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

        That’s great. You were a better person than me before I knew Christ. And just for the record, I don’t expect anything back. Somehow you and Jonny were led to believe that is what I expect. I only implied that if an opportunity arises to talk about Christ then I consider it pure joy. I don’t expect anything in return, not even an opportunity to talk about Christ. I do it out of pure love and compassion for those less fortunate than me.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t know that I have ever been a horrible person at all actually..to say i have or were a better person than anyone else. I am sorry I offended you Greg by what i said.
          wasn’t meant to be offensive. There are many people who would love to have something done for them without having to bring jesus into the issue or talked about.
          I am sorry-but i get tired of people wanting to use jesus or try to wittness according to their belief in needy situations others are dealing with.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

            Kerry – Unless you make less than $1/day, I don’t think you are in a position to judge what an impoverished person may be tired of hearing. I am guessing you are at least a middle class citizen from western society that has always led a privileged life and have always had things provided to you with little effort. So, when someone who makes less than a $1/day with no electricity and water receives basic items (food, clothing, water, etc.) from someone in the name of Christ, they are likely much more joyful to receive such things than you or any other westerner are. Until you’ve been there I wouldn’t toot your own horn.

          • Anonymous

            Greg-actually i have always been and lived way below poverty since i was able to work. So you are totally wrong in your guessing about me. I have always worked very very hard to try to keep my head above water and lived in slum apts..off charities -food and clothing pantries. Not tooting my own horn at all..in fact I have given generously from what small I had at any time. I would have loved to have more help from others in the name of christ..but that didn’t happen to me. So yes Greg i have been in a position to say what any impoverished person may be tired of hearing.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

            Kerry – Poverty as defined by western standards is quite different than what is defined in third world countries. The poorest people in western society are far richer than the middle class of third world countries. If you truly lived in the poverty that I do ministry amongst you likely wouldn’t have the electricity to power the very computer you are now making these posts on. You don’t know poverty… trust me.

          • Anonymous

            Greg..i wish you well done talking to you. and i dont trust you..bye

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

            Peace.

          • http://ihopetomorrowisbetter.blogspot.com/ Molly Bandit

            Now I realize this was said when you were engaging someone who’s basically just “trolling” this article… but I don’t know if that’s a fair statement to make. While it’s true conditions in developing countries are worse than in parts of the US, I don’t think it’s fair to erase kerry’s experience and hardships. Telling someone who’s living and working in America’s lower classes “Hey, buck up, at least you’re not in Bangladesh” does more harm than good. Hearing that other people have it worse is a slap in the face when you have it pretty bad yourself. From personal experience, it pretty much turned me off to any other ideas the person said when I had popcorn for dinner and some guy in a nice suit and a nice car frowned at me and said “at least you have popcorn.” I also had internet access and electricity at the local library for free and would then come home to no power and no heat. “You don’t know poverty” is a pretty rough statement to make.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

            Molly – I suppose if poverty becomes a relative term with nothing to measure it against then you have a valid point. But, when measured globally, the poorest in America are truly not suffering the way in which many impoverished people are suffering in third world countries. America offers many welfare programs for the poor in their country. And, around every corner there is a food kitchen to feed the homeless. There are countless opportunities to work and prosper in America with no excuse for laziness. These programs and opportunities cannot be found in third world countries like Honduras and El Salvador. Furthermore, the government in these countries are typically corrupt and can truly care less about poverty. I see it everyday. So, when I hear of an American or other westerner who goes one night with only popcorn to eat, it truly is hard to sympathize when there are entire families living in squalor amongst disease-infested trash dumps covered in feces with nothing to eat for days.

          • http://ihopetomorrowisbetter.blogspot.com/ Molly Bandit

            I can understand where you’re coming from, but I really hesitate to quantify pain. I’m not sure how helpful it is to classify one form of suffering as “better” or “worse” than another. God calls me to comfort and aid everyone who hurts, whether that hurt is the abject poverty you see in your ministry or simply the guy who’s down on his luck and needs an extra dollar for the bus so he won’t miss work. If God doesn’t make that distinction, then I sure as heck won’t. All oppression comes from the same source. Even if I can’t sympathize with a situation – for instance, I have never been addicted to drugs and have seen the powerful negative impact they have – I can at least empathize with the person going through it.

            I have also seen through my own experience and through helping others that there are some real barriers to some of the aid offered in this country. It’s not laziness when you can’t apply for a program because you can’t read, or you don’t speak English, or you have a mental illness that impairs your cognition. Sometimes it goes in an endless loop of frustration.

            At any rate, I can tell it will be difficult for us to walk in each others shoe’s because of our different life experiences. I’m glad that you could at least respectfully meet me halfway.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388514701 Greg Dill

            Molly – You are right indeed. We (I) should not quantify peoples pain. It’s just hard to sympathize for people who claim to be “poor” in a country where there are vast resources available to them to enable them to prosper and leave a life of poverty. Of course, there are indeed circumstances that prohibit people from truly leaving poverty due to mental illnesses or disabilities. But, in most part, Americans are free to work and make a decent living for themselves. Most Americans are without excuse. Those who are poor in America are usually poor due to circumstances they themselves could have prevented such as: drugs, alcohol, divorce, and/or other self-destructive lifestyles.

            In the end, I will be more careful not to judge. Thanks for the reminder.

            Blessings,

            greg

          • http://ihopetomorrowisbetter.blogspot.com/ Molly Bandit

            I appreciate your response. And anything I ever say is a “we,” not a “you”, because I struggle to not hurt or judge other people every day. My walk with Christ has definitely helped me overcome some of that, but it’s something I still have to work on, and I still mess it up on a regular basis. We’re all human.

            I wish you well and hope your ministry continues to help and comfort the Roma people.
            – Molly

          • Anonymous

            @Greg, I would hesitate to throw divorce into the mix as something people could have prevented. I suppose in some instances that is true, but I know of somehow whose husband left her via a note and there she was blindsided, not working, left to raise two small children and saddled with a large home that she ended up having to give after a prolonged attempt to hold on to it. Her case is not unusual. Many people are just left and were unaware of signs that a divorce was coming. Many can be heard saying that they knew there were problems but didn’t think it was bad enough to warrant a divorce. So when one is blindsided, as so many are (many of them women with children) I find it hard to blame them for that particular circumstance. It’s just not that easy to go out and get a job and move on with your life when your head is reeling from how to care for small children, keep your home, deal with debt that may have been left to you, etc. We need to have a little sympathy. But there are those who are in their situations out of true irresponsibility.

  • http://ihopetomorrowisbetter.blogspot.com/ Molly Bandit

    YES! Finally, somebody gets it! This makes me so happy!

  • Sam

    I think there are very few Christians who believe that, “the only reason we should do good to others like providing the poor and oppressed with food and medicine, etc., is in order that we might win them to Jesus.” The vast majority, from my experience, are acting from a God-given heart of compassion for their needs, both physical and spiritual. Yes, some can get a too focused on racking up numbers for the kingdom, but God usually uses imperfect people to bring timely and much needed relief. Some are doing the works out of sheer obedience to the Lord’s commands and are doing whatsoever they do in the name of the Lord Jesus and that’s not a bad thing.

    In your instructions to the young people in your piece, you at least told them to say, “This is God”. The real missed opportunity would be to not give the glory of your good deed to God.

    • Anonymous

      I firmly belive one doesnt have to belive in god or any god..to do honest acts of kindness towards anyone.

      • Sam

        You are absolutely right, Kerry. Many acts of kindness are performed daily by those who know nothing of our Saviour. I believe that the greatest act of honest kindness ever demonstrated was when Jesus agreed to receive the death penalty that was supposed to be mine. I’m so grateful for that kindness that I want others to have the opportunity to experience it as well, but their agreement with me is not necessary for me to want to help them. All kindness has its origin in God whether people realize it or not. I’m thankful for any act of kindness, whatever the source and whatever the motivation. Sure beats the alternative! Peace to you

    • http://ihopetomorrowisbetter.blogspot.com/ Molly Bandit

      Sadly, I have met more than my share of Christians who only see kindness and doing good solely as a witnessing tool. I remember when I was a teenager, my mom and I were both volunteers and clients of a local church-run food bank. One of the requirements of getting a holiday food package was that the person had to sign a paper that said they’d show up for the next Sunday’s service. At a meeting afterward, one of the volunteers said that a man said he was uncomfortable with the requirement, and the ministry leader simply answered with “well, what would be the point, then?” I stopped volunteering that day and stopped going to church shortly after, something that lasted several years. (there were also some pretty terrible classist comments made by the people in charge, which were always tagged on with a quick “Oh, but I don’t mean you guys. I mean those SINNER poor people!” when I was around. The leader’s comment that day definitely didn’t come out of the blue) The church needs to wake up and realize that sometimes their “witness” is more of an “anti-witness.

      • Sam

        Molly,
        Glad you were able to move past the errors you witnessed early life. You have been shown the great value of being completely genuine before God and man. May God richly bless you as you help others come into this revelation. <3

    • Anonymous

      @Sam, I don’t think there are many who would admit the real reason behind the acts of service that they do. But unconsciously, I think getting someone saved lies at the root for much of what some Christians do. Face it, it’s been a long part of many churches’ theology to get people saved and when you have that as your sole focus versus getting into relationship with people, you tend to be more focused on the bottom line. Everything becomes a transaction, conversations are dreaded because people feel like all you want from this is their conversion and their money. However, entering into relationship with people, REALLY getting to know them and accepting them where they are speaks volumes to people. Believe me, when you’re walking with Christ, people know the difference and will be drawn to that of Christ within you, thereby opening up natural opportunities to talk about faith. No marketing scheme needed.

      • Sam

        Pat,
        Sounds like you are able to demonstrate the beauty of Jesus in your service to others. Keep up the good work for the kingdom. May Christ himself reward you openly for what you do in secret. Blessings to you.

        • Pmpope68

          Thanks, Sam.

  • Pmpope68

    @Maria–I served at a church similar to what you describe. You would have thought we had said Jesus wasn’t the Son of God when a new mission with an emphasis on loving God and people were introduced. I can remember being appalled when some church leaders asked what unconditional love looks like. Many of these people have been in church for years and yet unconditional love of mankind was a foreign concept.

  • Erin M.

    Yes! The love of Jesus is not predicated on whether or not it will change the recipient. Thank you so much for posting this!

  • Chris Meyer

    I try, not always successful, to do everthing I do in love. I try not to give with an expectation, I try to give unconditionally, I try to give without judging.

    The further I follow Jesus along the path, the more I find myself SEARCHING for opportunities to give, or help, or just love. The more I give, I find, the less I worry and think about myself.

    And that is a blessing in itself.

    I don’t feel it’s my job to “covert” or “win” people to Christ (as if it’s some sort of sales competition). If it is, God picked the wrong guy – all I try to do is love, and love some more and if they ask…then I get to tell them.

    If not, well, hopefully they felt a little of the love.

  • Stuart

    It seems that something is missing here. That is, when we do good, we are preaching the gospel, because good works are one response to grace. Christ has redeemed us so that we may be a light to the world. When we do good works, we are acting as redeemed people, who are trying to further the redemption of creation. Such action deeply involves the gospel. This isn’t to say that non-believers can’t do good (because they absolutely can), but that Christians do good because we acknowledge a good God, who invites us to participate in salvation. Along the lines of the famous quotation by St. Francis, we can preach the gospel, without words. I don’t think that anyone here (including Dr. Campolo) denies this, it would just be nice to see it stated more explicitly.

  • Luis

    Tony although I admire your nobility, “doing good for goodness sake,” I have to say you sound unconcerned with people’s eternal salvation. Doing “good works” were indeed prepared for us by God to do Ephesians 2:10, however, if we don’t do them for our Lord’s sake, rather than for “goodness sake” (a term as false as the fat man in a red coat it describes) what “good” are we then doing? Which is more important, a person’s belly or their soul? If we feed all of the hungry and give to all the needy and eradicate poverty altogether but don’t share the Gospel then we’re neglecting Mark 8:36 “For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?” True, our motives must be pure and not set on “setting-the-trap” so to speak; this doesn’t mean we don’t give that cup of water in Christ’s name Matthew 10:42.

  • Chris Meyer

    Interesting thoughts brought up in this thread…which makes me think Jesus was pretty smart in telling us that we ARE NOT to put qualifiers on the people that we help. We help because we can, and because we love.

    Now if more of us helped in our given capacities, we wouldn’t need to worry about who’s doing what and why.

    Sadly WE have let people down…we are happy enough to let others – including government – do what WE should have been doing for far too long.

    But, as we usually do, instead working together to find ways we can ALL help, we want to point fingers…or find excuses.

    There ARE NO excuses…we have failed our brothers and sisters. We all have equal blame.

    Arguing doesn’t feed a stomach or clothe a back or rock a child to sleep. Just makes US feel better that we are “standing up” for something and “look” better.

    I’m just as guilty – God knows, literally, how many arguments I have been in about petty stuff that doesn’t accomplish anything – AND I was good at it!

    Just looking at the threads here makes me sad, because well…we still have a LONG way to go don’t we?

    Peace and Love to you all.

  • D-Dawg

    Is it good to tell someone about Jesus? Is it possible to tell someone about Jesus without hoping that they will believe in Him?

    • Chris Meyer

      Of course it’s good to tell someone about Jesus, and most people have a good view of Jesus (even atheists) what usually screws things up is, well, US.

      We don’t always reflect Jesus’ light and love – instead of opening our arms, we point our fingers.

      We always have hope that Jesus will speak to someone’s heart. But it’s not OUR job to change their heart – it’s God’s.

      We are only to reflect Jesus’ light and love the best way we can and leave the rest to God.

  • Lynne

    This sentence(I told a youth group once that when they delivered their Christmas baskets, they should knock on the door, wait for the people to answer, present them with the food, and then sing some Christmas carols) In light of what you did suggest, I think you meant to put “not” in there….”I told a youth group once that when they delivered their Christmas baskets, they should “not” knock”….etc..
    By the way, I fully agree with you, Tony. I like: “There’s stuff on your back steps. Go and get that stuff. It’s for you. This is God!”

  • Brian2274

    I just read this and haven’t read all the responses, so I apologize in advance if this is repetitive.

    The Red Letters (also from the sermon on the mount I might add) say to let your light shine such among men that they will see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven. I’ve pointed out to people before that there seems to be a contradiction between that verse and the one you quoted in your article. However, there is a difference. In the verse you quoted the motive is self recognition. In the verse I just mentioned the motive is for those who see the good done to glorify God (or God recognition if you will). I’d call the latter, doing good for God’s sake.

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